Lisa Donovan, OUR LADY OF PERPETUAL HUNGER

Lisa Donovan, renowned pastry chef and essayist, talked to Zibby about creating societal change by reclaiming her story and the stories of women in an industry — and world — in which men have traditionally been dominant.

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