Christine Pride and Jo Piazza on The Ripple Effect of Secrets

October 16, 2026

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Episode Description

Co-authors Christine Pride and Jo Piazza join Zibby Owens to discuss their new book I Never Knew You At All, the story of Simone and the investigation into her husband’s grandfather that exposes secrets, traumas, and moral dilemmas around her interracial marriage.


Christine and Jo talk about the secrets we keep from not only others but from ourselves, how family can serve as a mirror for self-realization, and the throughline of friendship in their stories.


They also share their exploration of ‘what if’ in this story, writing about dementia, and why they add gray areas to their characters.


Learn more about Christine Pride here https://www.christinepride.com and Jo Piazza here https://www.jopiazza.com, and follow them both on Instagram @cpride and @jopiazzaauthor.

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A story for the messy middle. Zibby's essay collection Between Chapters is out now!

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