New York Times bestselling author and global phenomenon Anna Todd joins Zibby to discuss her new book, THE LAST SUNRISE, an unforgettable romance about a young woman’s summer with a mysterious local in Majorca. Anna reveals how her son’s rare genetic disorder, tuberous sclerosis, inspired this story, and then shares her journey, from getting married at 18 and becoming a mom at 21, to navigating military life, her son’s diagnosis, and the beginnings of her writing on Wattpad. She reflects on author life, impostor syndrome, divorce, co-parenting, launching her own imprint, and finding unexpected love with a Korean partner she met through a language app!

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Zibby: Welcome, Anna. Thank you so much for coming on Totally Booked to discuss The Last Sunrise.

Congrats. 

Anna: Thank you so much. It feels like it's been five years in the making and now it's out in like a week and a half, and I'm like, okay. 

Zibby: Uh, the glory of the publishing world. 

Anna: Right? 

Zibby: Those close, those jitters right before the books come out are pretty, pretty bad. 

Anna: Yeah. Every time, like as soon as I turn it in, I'm like, or right before I turn in, I'm like.

This happens with every book. It's like, oh, this is the best book I've ever written. And then I send it over and I'm like, oh no, that it's not ready. It's the worst book I've ever written. And then it goes back and forth and then like the week before publishing, I'm like, I can't believe I'm letting this out in the world.

And it's just loop. 

Zibby: Plus you can't take it back. Like you can't change your mind. At some point it's out and it's beyond your control and there's nothing you can do. 

Anna: Yeah. 

Zibby: Am I making you feel better? 

Anna: Yes, definitely. Absolutely. The hives are hidden under the sweater. 

Zibby: Well, this is, this is not your first rodeo, so to speak.

Talk about the last sunrise, and then I want you to tell me about how you got your start on Wattpad in this really creative way. You've built your whole brand. 

Anna: Okay, so the last sunrise is a, it's, uh, let's see. It was a story that came from, first it was a film idea. Um, I really wanted to tell a story about a person with the same condition that my son has.

It's called Tube Sclerosis. The main character Aria has it. Not as severely as my son, but she has it. I didn't wanna over, you know, do it to where people felt uncomfortable or it felt like too much sick lit, you know? But I also wanted to tell the story and bring a little bit of awareness while also making people swoon and have this setting that's like impossible to not fall in love with.

So I sold it as a film idea and at first I was like, I don't know if I can emotionally write a story given the ending I originally wanted. I was like, I don't know if I can do that, just because it's so close to home. And then as the script started progressing, I was like, wait, actually, like all these little things were popping in my head and I was like, okay, I'm gonna write it.

Um, and then I wrote it and it was actually really therapeutic, but also really fun because it's not all just about this you know, medical condition that she has. There's like first love and I really, I was really happy with the storyline between her and her mother. 

Zibby: Mm-hmm. 

Anna: I love writing parent children relationships, especially when the children are coming into the adult world.

So that was really fun for me. Um, and then to have. Without a spoiler to have like two paralleled love stories. Like it's just really new for me, even though it's romance and it's angsty and it's enemies to lovers, but it still feels like a very new, fresh story that I've never written. 

Zibby: Wow. Well the medical part, it was interesting how you did it.

'cause you don't come out on page one and say like, this is it you, it's told from the first person living with this disease and you have to figure it out like her mom saying like, wait, did you take your meds? And you know, something's going on, but you don't know exactly what. And that's part of the intrigue that keeps it going and it's not in your face.

And yet there are enough references that you know something is happening. 

Anna: So I like it. I tried to be like kind of delicate with it. Like I didn't want it to feel like a PSA, like you have to close your book and Google something. Like, I don't, I didn't want it to feel like that, but I wanted it to feel like something's going on here and I don't know what that is.

Zibby: And so how does this disease affect your son? 

Anna: Um, he has epilepsy, pretty severe epilepsy. He has autism, pretty severe autism. Around 85 to 90% of people with this condition have autism, so kind of goes hand in hand. The autism's, like the daily stuff and the developmental delays, the epilepsy's also daily, but it's controlled by medication for the most part.

He still does have seizures, but I would say the autism's like the heavy. Hit her in the household. And then he has some kidney, um, problems. These tubers that I talk about in the book, my son has them kind of all over his body. Unlike Ry, she's mostly just they're in her brain. Um, and then while I was writing this book, I found out that I kind of knew like a mother's institute.

I, I knew that. I was carrying the gene. 'cause I started thinking about having more kids and I was, you know, I've been separated and now divorced, um, for a long time. I'm in a totally new relationship and we're like life planning and I'm like, I have a feeling that this condition comes from my side of the family.

Even just looking at, my relatives and undiagnosed stuff going on. I'm like, I just have a feeling that like, it's kind of a joke, but it's not a joke, but it's like the way to deal with stuff is humor is like, I'm like my mammal, who's, my grandma's like the hub. I'm convinced she's like the hub of this thing. So I got genetic testing done and I knew I already knew, but I was definitely still quite the hit emotionally to be like, okay, now I know for sure that I do carry this gene that I passed on unknowingly to my child, and now his life is hard because of me. So it was this big, oh. Loop. I'm like, thank goodness for therapy and like, you know, being able to walk myself through these phases of grief.

But I was like, okay, so now what? But it was, yeah, I, while writing this, so that was probably not, I'm like, I would change the timeline around a little. 'cause then I was like, you know what? Now I'm gonna have her mom also carry Gene. So it's. And once you, there's two sides not to be all over the place, but there's, you know, spontaneous, you can have this condition spontaneously or it can be passed down.

Um, and, but once you have it, like my son for example, he even developmentally, he likely won't ever have children anyways, but he 100% would pass it down to his child since I have the gene, but it's not, it's more of a recessive gene. It's not guaranteed that my child would always have fit, but Asher does.

So I'm like, okay, we've got a lot of planning to do, um, in this house. But yeah, I wanted to talk about it without being in your face about it, but it definitely affects our life every day. And sometimes I forget that, you know, I'd never heard of it. I mean, I was also a 21-year-old mother who'd never heard of most medical conditions, but I had never heard of it.

And most people, no one in my family, no one, none of my friends, like whenever I am like telling them about. Asher's condition. No one's ever heard of it. So it's not very common unless you know someone who has it. 

Zibby: So you had your first baby at 21? 

Anna: Mm-hmm. 

Zibby: How did that, were you married? Wait, let's, let's, let's get into that.

Anna: Yeah. Yeah. So I got married right outta high school, like a month out of high school, which I don't recommend, but I'm also glad I did it. My boyfriend at the time, um, we'd known each other since we were like 14. He was going into the army. I was like, I've gotta get out of Ohio. I'm not gonna get myself into student loan debt.

And my parents are very anti-establishment when it comes to like college or any, like taking anything from the government or getting into any kind of loans or any, like, they didn't even have debit cards until like very recently, which is, yeah, they're very much like. Well now I'm like, you know what, you, you guys had a point.

But at the time I just remember being like, okay, well I guess I'm not gonna go to college 'cause they can afford it. I'm not gonna get into debt. So I was like, at least I can get out of my tiny town where there's a lot of drugs and a lot of just like trauma and all this stuff that I was like, I just wanna get out.

So I got married to a soldier. He joined the army. I always knew he was gonna join the Army since I met him. Moved to Texas, was a waitress. Didn't really know what I was gonna do with my life, but I just knew I'd rather be a waitress in Texas than be a waitress in my hometown and see people I went to high school with every day and I'm like, I can figure out something.

I started doing. It's definitely not legal, but maybe not illegal. I started doing people's makeup on Craigslist with no training whatsoever, like just army wives. They would paint me to do their makeup and I worked at Ulta Beauty. Um, so I would use like the samples and stuff and I'm like, I'm always just kind of finding a way, like if there's no way I'm that person that's like, we will find a way for something.

I like no, is not in my vocabulary. I'm just like always, I hate the word hustling because it's like. Especially now as a 36 year woman, I'm like, I'm done hustling. Like I wanna work and continue to build a brand, but like this hustle culture is like not, I want like a slow, peaceful life while also having a career.

But I got married, I was married for a couple years. Everyone kept asking, when are you gonna have a baby? And I'm like, I'm literally 21. Like, what are you talking about? And then my husband at the time went to Iraq for the third time. Um. And two days later I found out I was pregnant. So, and I did all the things.

I was on birth control, it was all the things and I was like, okay, let's weigh the options here. But I just like, I'm like, I just instinct. I don't know. I just was like, the only option is to have the baby, even though I. That's probably not the advice I would give like a friend, but for me I was like, this is, I'm doing it alone.

So he was gone the whole pregnancy. I went to every doctor's appointment by myself. I went to every like, breathing class by myself every like learn how to breastfeed class by myself while working two jobs. Um, I worked overnight for the IRS and then I worked at a Logan's Roadhouse like. Yeah, um, waitressing and then I worked until I had him and then my husband at the time did make it to come home.

Him and his mom, I'm really close with his mom still, and him actually, it was very amicable divorce, but him and his mom kind of forced me to go to Ohio to have my son because I didn't have any family in Texas and I didn't really have any friends, but I am at the time, it's. Funny. Now being in a different relationship, I'm not hyper independent, but I've always been extremely hyper independent.

So I was like, I don't need anyone here. Like I am gonna have the baby by myself. Like I, this is where I live. I don't wanna travel and have a baby and then be around like chaos and everyone's like wanting to come see the baby. It's like, felt like a lot, but it was kind of like two against one and I was like, you know what?

It would be like if something went wrong or you know, you never know. So I went to Ohio, had my son, and then we like on his actual due date, and then about two days later we were walking through the grocery store and his face turned blue. And I'm like, oh my gosh. So I'm immediately thinking I'm choking him in his little like car seat thing.

'cause I'm don't know how to even work it barely at this point. So I like loosen the straps and I'm like, wait, it's already loose. So we take 'em immediately to the hospital and they're like, oh, newborns, just forget how to breathe. I'm like. I'm like, well, that's not an acceptable answer. So went to a different hospital and then they were like, let's just wait and see, you know, if something else happens, go home for now, whatever.

So within like two more, two hours later, he was blue again and I was like, we went to the children's hospital in Dayton, Ohio, which is actually really great, considering.. 

Zibby: My whole family's from there, by the way. 

Anna: Yeah. Oh really? 

Zibby: That where? Random. 

Anna: Right. Born. 

Zibby: Really? Oh my gosh. Yeah. 

Anna: Yeah. Born and raised. I'm going there like next weekend for my mammal's.

Wedding. 

Zibby: Gosh. 

Anna: She's 81 and getting married again. 

Zibby: Oh, I wonder if she knows my grandparents. Well, anyway, keep going. 

Anna: Probably, honestly, it's such a small place. 

Zibby: Yeah, such a small town. 

Anna: So we go to Dayton Children's and I'm like, basically I'm not leaving until we figure out why my sun's face True. It's bigger than like not being able to breathe or whatever.

It's like something I'm not leaving, basically. 

Zibby: Mm-hmm. 

Anna: So they. Let us stay. They do all these tests on him. I can still remember him like screaming. They can't figure out anything and then they do an MRI finally, 'cause I was like, I don't care what. 

Zibby: Mm-hmm. 

Anna: Because they're like, we're not sure if your insurance will cover it.

And I'm like, my husband deployed three times and the only good thing about this is the insurance. Give us the damn MRI. Good for you. So we just, my husband was just kinda like. 

Mm. 

Yeah, and I'm like, this is like, we're not leaving. So we get the MRI and thank goodness they did it because then a couple, like an hour later, this guy who works on the phone pulls there, basically like technician comes over and he's like, so we, I was told that your son has tube sclerosis, and which they hadn't even told us yet.

And my daughter also has it, and he's like, I've always told them, if anyone else comes with the markers of this condition to, you know, come find me. Or if I'm not working, call me. 'cause I, he's like just a good dad who's like, been through it without any help basically. So he knows the ropes already. So in hindsight, I'm like, I'm so glad he was the one that.

Told us about this because then when the doctors came in, they were like handed us pamphlets on like mental retardation and all this, like just the way stuff was worded was so vile anyways, and the way it was handled was like, not to mention my husband is about to go back to Iraq and like it's, there was so much going on, so we're like.

Okay. Um, and that guy ended up being like, his name's Michael. He ended up being such a resource for like the first few years of Asher's life, honestly. And we're like still friends on Facebook, but they basically told us like all these worst case scenarios and I was like, okay. Whatever it is. We're not doing it here.

We're going back to Texas, like we're driving back. So we drove back with a newborn baby with epilepsy. They realized it was seizures that he was having, and at this point, until he was like two, he was having like 50 a day. 

Zibby: Oh. Oh my gosh. 

Anna: Stop. 

Zibby: Like that's so terrifying. 

Anna: Completely nonstop. That's what people are like.

How did you have time to write? A book on your phone. I'm like, 'cause all I could do is stare at my child and wait for the next seizure. Like, that's like my life. I couldn't work anymore. And even in military income, it's like. We couldn't afford for me to have a special ed or a special needs nanny, or a babysitter or a daycare.

It's like there's so many issues within that anyways, but I was like, well, looks like I'm gonna be a stay at home mom, which is, everyone has their own path, but that's just not what I ever expected mine to be. So I was like, you know what? If I'm gonna do that, I'm at least gonna have a hobby. So I picked up reading more and more and more, and then I started writing on Wattpad and no one was reading it.

At first, of course, I didn't care. I was like, this is my thing. Everything else in my life is about doctors and babies and diapers and. Deployments and Army stuff and all this, my parents stuff, it's like so many things went on. So I was like, this is my thing. And no one knew about it. I didn't even tell my husband about it.

The first person I told was my mother-in-law, and that was only after I got contacted for a publishing deal because I was like, okay, we're there were, it's not gonna be easy to hide this anymore. And she was obviously like massively supportive and then met with some publishers basically. And then they pitched why I should sell my book to them, which at the time I was like.

Is this a book? Like what do you mean? Like I don't have any formal training. I just love to read and I love to tell stories, but like mostly in the like verbal form. I'm not so much of a writer. I don't have any reason to think I should be a writer. And my idea of what a writer was as a reader was so different than now where I'm like, actually a writer just means you like to write and you write it down.

But at the time I was like, there's all these rules that you have to go by and you have to like, I remember my first couple author events, people being like, what's your alumni? I am like. Waffle House. I worked at Waffle House a long time in my teens, but it was very much a new world for me. But I feel like I kind of snuck into this big publishing deal, and it definitely changed my life in a million ways.

But my son's life especially. 

Zibby: Oh my gosh, what a story. So your son is what? Like 16, 15 or something? 13. 13. Okay. 

Anna: There's my math 13 

going on like 70, I swear. He's like, we went to the doctor yesterday for a kidney appointment, just like a standard kidney one. And they're like, he is five, six and a half. I'm five two.

Zibby: Me too. 

Anna: He's so big. And then he'll be like, he'll like try to sit on my lap. And I'm like, 'cause mentally he's around like three to four-ish. 

Zibby: Mm-hmm. 

Anna: And then sometimes in certain areas he's older, but. I'm like, he thinks he's like a baby. And he is always like, oh mom like hug me. And then he'll like lay on me and I'm like, I can't breathe.

But he is. Yeah, he's 13, but he's like, towers over me now, so it's crazy. 

Zibby: And then when did you end up getting divorced? 

Anna: I got officially divorced, which is another like gripe I have with the state of California. It took so long. I've been separated for over four years, but we have like properties and a trust and all this stuff, so it just took so long.

Um, so I've technically only been divorced a few months, but I've been, I've only seen. Ex-husband in person to like take my son to him and that for in the last four years. So I'm like, I've been in a relationship for pretty much four years, but also separated for four years. So the timeline is not, also not what I expected.

'cause when I first got divorced, I was like. Separated. I was like, oh, it's just gonna me an ash. My son's name's Asher. It's gonna be me, an ash, and everything's gonna be like easy. And my ex is a great person, but it, I cannot like have two children. And my life is just so different now than it was when we were first married.

And I'm different. I feel like I've been 10 different women and. He is been the same guy, which is a great guy, but just not the same as what I would date now or what I would want in my life now. So it was very scary. Honestly though, because I've been married half of my life and I had this idea in my head that if I stay married, like imagine I could tell my grandkids, you know, when they're seven or when I'm 70, I can say I've been married for 50 years and it's like I kept holding onto that little thing and I'm like.

That's not enough. Like that's the ideal, like this ideology of what romance was to me, it was like, yeah, but what if you just, I don't know, start over and maybe there's a different, like now I'm like, wow, I definitely, there's such like, I don't even know how to explain the massive difference in like having a partner who is just gets me and in a shorter amount of time and a language barrier in the middle, um, and parenting with someone, you know, that's very emotionally mature. It's just like, it's life changing. But I, my plan at first was to either be single or marry like a 50 something year old man who already has kids.

Like, I was like, I'm not going out dating. Which is kind of funny because I, this was the first guy that I met on accident after my separation, and then now I'm, I'm going to be marrying him. 

Zibby: Oh my. 

Anna: So I'm like, I'm definitely monogamy kind of lady. Like I don't need to find out what's out there. Like some of my friends were like, don't you wanna like date and whatever?

You've been married your whole life. No, absolutely not. I see from their experience, I'm like, I got really lucky. Like, I don't need to like see what else is out there. 'cause what I have is better than I ever imagined. So I'm not made, I'm always like, I'm not made for the streets. I am made for like 8:00 PM bedtimes, 6:00 AM Pilates.

That's it. 

Zibby: And what, what is the language barrier? 

Anna: Uh, Korean. 

Zibby: Interesting. 

Anna: Yeah, it's definitely less of a barrier now, but when we first started talking, the way we met was he was supposed to be teaching me Korean, um, for content reasons. 'cause I started producing stuff and I'm really, really into Korean romance dramas.

So I was like, I need to learn language more. So I signed up for this app that's like kind of language trading. 

Zibby: Mm-hmm. 

Anna: And then we just, I thought he was in Korea and he didn't really, like, he knew I was in the States, but he was like, I didn't really care. Kind of to know where you were. It was like a very transactional thing.

And then we kept like kind of talking about everything besides language. And then he basically was like, because very, very direct without any, like now I'm so used to it, but he is basically like our relationship is inappropriate. So either we should go on a date or we should not be like spending all this time talking to each other.

And I was like. Okay. Um, alright. Um, so which one do we do? And then we like hung out one time and then now it's literally been four years and we're like living together. We're pretty much inseparable. So what a whirlwind. 

Zibby: Wow. What a story. And in the meantime your own career is like blowing up and you're, you got onto social media right away and that got big 'cause of wa and then you started your own imprint.

Like, tell me about all that. 

Anna: Yeah, so I basically, once I learned as, I mean, you never learn everything about publishing, but once I learned a little bit more than what I knew from Wattpad about publishing, I was like, every time I went to the bookstore, because I, when you're on Wattpad, it's like you have unlimited access to so many stories and so many different kinds of writers and.

I felt like at the time when I went into a bookstore, it was like the same couple names, just a new book. And I'm like, as much as I love their books, I'm reading at a rate that's like you, they're not able to keep up with, bookstores, aren't able to keep up with, and it's like they already know it's gonna work, so that's all they're kind of putting on their shelves.

So I was like, we need something between Wattpad where it's like free for all and. Bookstores and like publishing houses. So I told my agent slash, she's kind of like a second mom to me now, but I was like, I would love to have an imprint by the time I'm 40 because I heard once I was walking through Simon Schuster and I listened to everyone's conversations like.

I'm telling you, when I'm at a restaurant, I don't care how many 20 conversations, I'm listening to all of them at the same exact time. Like it's sometimes I'm like, that's I, it took me a little bit to realize not everyone does that. Um, but I was listening to these people talk in the hallway about. This baseball player who has an imprint, and they were talking about him choosing, or like approving books.

And I was like, what on earth does a baseball player have to do with books? Like, that doesn't even make any sense. So I asked my editor and he is like, oh, it's basically like a business venture where he, you know, signs off on these books and gets 'em published. And I was like. Why aren't like readers doing that?

Or why aren't like romance authors doing that? Or why aren't women especially doing that? I mean, he is like, well, there's a couple, but, and I was like, well, are they getting paid as much as he is? I mean, I know he's has a name, but it's like, so I, and that like struck something me, where I was like, okay, if he can do it, I can do it somehow.

I don't know how, but I'm gonna figure it out later. So I told my agent this and then. It kind of worked backward of like, who do we go to? Do we go to like the big five for the imprint or do we start small and then sell it later to a big five? And I really wanted to be very involved and I wanted it, I didn't want to just stick my name on something and then like approve a book every once in a while.

So we decided to go back kind of to my roots, to Wattpad, and I just asked them basically like, would you guys want to basically fund and do an imprint with me? And they were like, yeah. I was like, okay, right. So where do we start? It was a way faster yes, than I expected, and it happened like five years earlier than I expected.

But I'm really proud of the authors that we have and the team keeps growing and just really cool to go in a bookstore and see people that we've gotten some off the platform and then some just submissions. So it's been really cool to give these voices. They're books in stores because that's, you know, the hardest part usually.

Zibby: Wow. And then when did Fray pages come about? 

Anna: So fray pages, the production side came when I was on set for the after series, which was my first one that I wrote on Wattpad, got turned into a movie and I had the kind of the same thought process where I was like. First of all, this is a mess. And second of all, it doesn't need to be like all the problems that were happening were like so easily fixed.

And I was like, there's like 10 people here doing nothing. Not problem solving, but they're making tons of money. When first of all, this was like my literal idea and this would be so EAs like just saw, like, it just blew my mind how. Like inept, some of the people were. So I was like, okay, if these dudes who clearly don't know anything about what women wanna watch, they don't even care enough.

They're like barely even. They're literally just sitting there and like eating Cheetos all day. So I was like, okay, if they can do it, I can do it. So I asked my business manager, like I called him while I was there and was like, how do I open a production company? And then how do I kind of. Like backward negotiate for my production company to get a credit on this movie because now I am rewriting pages.

I'm managing the personalities of all the actors. I'm problem solving all day, every day, while everyone else is kind of just vibing out. So I. I just started it and then I was really involved in the casting, and that was before the, obviously casting came before filming, but during the casting, one of the casting directors was telling me like, you really have a good instinct for the talent.

Like you. She was like, if you weren't an author, I would tell you to be a casting director because all the people that I was recommending or being like, no, they have it. There was always one of the producers who was obviously like an older man who had like very inappropriate things to say about all the young girls, but he kept saying like, no, to this one.

No to that one. And then basically every single person that I said we should cast ended up on like euphoria or stranger thing, like these shows that I'm like. Really, so I, and, but you, I'm really happy with the cast we did, again, especially the two main leads. But I was like, I need to stop listening to these opinions from people that I wouldn't even ask for directions.

Zibby: Okay, and so now, so now why would you be worried about this book coming out? You've built up this whole network of people who respect what you've done, which is formidable, right? It is not as easy as you make it sound like, oh, I'm just like writing on my phone on Ed. Next thing you know, so I'm gonna chu calls like, this is like a dream story that most people don't get to live out.

So it's amazing that you did this in the face of all the stress you had in your life. It's like truly awesome. And now you're still writing and producing and, and publishing other people's things. So this book in particular, the last Sunrise, what are you hoping people get out of this book? 

Anna: I'm hoping they get, first of all, I want them to just get it a little bit of escape.

There are some, you know, because it does take place in Myorca and in real life, there is a problem with tourists like destroying the island. So there are some political themes, but I do want them to feel like they're escaping the world, especially right now. We could all use a little escapism. Um, so I want the escapism.

I want them to feel like they're falling in love for the first time. I just want them to. I, I try really hard when it comes to my characters to at least have like a couple conversations that I feel like everyone should have in the world. It's almost like my way of like the. Pieing my readers where I'm like, I want you to think about this later.

Zibby: Mm-hmm. 

Anna: And it usually ha it's worked so far. Um, and some of the cool quotes that people are pulling from lost and Right. I'm like, thank you. 'cause that's, I wanted you to think about that later in like connection with your own life and your own choices and how you feel as a person, especially a woman.

And so I just want connection. I want them to enjoy the story. Anything else is kind of up to them. But that's my goal. 

Zibby: That's amazing. Well, Anna, I'm so happy for you. Um, I, as, as closer to the mom's age than the kids' age of this book, I read it like from that point of view, like what would it be like for the young girl you bring on your big work trip?

Like what is that like, and you know, how does a young person get into the culture and should you listen to like the concierge recommendations and which room should I be giving her? And anyway, so I, I think it's not only escapist fun, putting yourself in those shoes, but also being the parent of a character like that and what you can learn about managing your own relationship with your daughters and all that.

So,.. 

Anna: Oh, I love that. 

Zibby: Yeah. I read, I read it on the beach. It was amazing. I hadn't been in the sun since like the summer last year, and I finally got on the beach and I was like, this is the book I have to read Sunrise right now, right here. 

Anna: Thank you so much. 

Zibby: All right. Well thanks. It was great to meet you.

Anna: You great to meet you. 

Zibby: Bye-bye. 

Anna: Have a good day.